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Posted - 2016.02.15 14:34:27 -
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Just briefly before leaving you all to go to work I wanted to give a huge shout out to the people over at Riot who ran a challenge very much like this and inspired us to do the same. They were also kind enough to answer a few questions I had about how their challenge went to help make sure this one here goes well.
The first one: https://developer.riotgames.com/discussion/announcements/show/bX8Z86bm
Results: https://developer.riotgames.com/api-challenge/april2015
The second one: https://developer.riotgames.com/discussion/announcements/show/2lxEyIcE
Results: https://developer.riotgames.com/api-challenge/august2015
So thanks to them for the idea and support.
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Posted - 2016.02.15 14:49:43 -
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Annia Aurel wrote:Nice. Tempted to install a development studio.
Do it! :D
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Posted - 2016.02.15 16:28:10 -
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Xiaou Bijoun wrote:First post ever, but had a question about the rule:
"The work submitted to this contest must be originally made for this contest. No pre-existing work is allowed and will be disqualified."
What is the scope of pre-existing. I started working on a CREST API for my own use a month or so ago (still not finished). I also have an EVE XML API (also incomplete). I understand the requirement is there so people aren't submitting stuff they have worked on for years. Maybe some discussion on this would help. I have not taken the time to read the threads from the riot games contests, maybe there is something in there that clarifies this as well.
Thank you
The use of existing libraries is allowed. The goal of this is to prevent submission of existing applications. So if the code you're using is packaged as a separate library and for things like dogma calculations or accessing the API that is perfectly allowed.
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Posted - 2016.02.16 12:04:47 -
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Freelancer117 wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Just briefly before leaving you all to go to work I wanted to give a huge shout out to the people over at Riot who ran a challenge very much like this and inspired us to do the same. They were also kind enough to answer a few questions I had about how their challenge went to help make sure this one here goes well.
Top Grossing PC Games by Revenue, 2015 (mil $) League of LegendsTencent/Riot Games$1,628 source: https://www.superdataresearch.com/blog/us-digital-games-market/
Regards, a Freelancer
OK? Sure? What?
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Posted - 2016.02.16 13:09:48 -
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Ace Aideron wrote:I wonder what kind of apps you're hoping for that can be done greenfield in 2.5 weeks by part-time / hobby developers with a thinly documented API.
Is the main idea just to get more potential devs looking at and trying to use the API?
I have a couple of ideas in mind for a Windows Desktop app I'd like to write (more like a 6 month project), but after two or three false starts with the documentation, I gave up. Maybe it's time to have another look.
The documentation is definitely not the best, but there is lots of work being done on it here: https://eveonline-third-party-documentation.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
The best thing to do thoughis join the #devfleet channel on the Tweetfleet Slack via this link: https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/tweetfleet-slack-invites/
There are a lot of CCP and third-party developers who hang out in there and are happy to answer any questions. :)
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Posted - 2016.02.17 08:32:40 -
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Lutz wrote:isn't 3 weeks or so a bit of a very short time to develop it?
The goal of the challenge is to encourage people to try something new, step out of their normal comfort zones, maybe think outside the box, and that kind of thing. We are aware of the short time frame which is why we don't expect projects to be the most polished glorious thing in the world. If we set a really long timeline peoples expectations for quality go up. This is also one of the reasons why we excluded existing applications.
2.5 weeks should be more than enough to knock a proof of concept together. Think of it more like a game jam than building a full featured application.
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Posted - 2016.02.17 11:23:27 -
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Ali 2k wrote:Will Planetary Interaction be available in the CREST API within the timeframe of this challenge?
No.
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Posted - 2016.02.21 13:33:18 -
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Unfortunately no. :(
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Posted - 2016.02.22 11:33:19 -
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Carbon Alabel wrote:What are your thoughts on the possibility of contestants listing a friend who had little or nothing to do with the development of the submission as a team member in order to double the rewards should they win one of the prizes?
Not much we can do to stop this.
Carbon Alabel wrote:Why use Google forms for accepting submissions, since they have no access control and make attempts at tampering much easier? A simple SSO app would have done the trick ;)
I am the only one with the ability to edit the responses. The "worst" someone could do is submit an application under someone elses name... but if the same app gets submitted twice it shouldn't be hard to figure out who the original author is. Especially since I am looking at each one every day. :)
Carbon Alabel wrote:Can one of the top three entries also win the CCP Seagull's choice award or are the two mutually exclusive? What would someone do with two identical signed books?
No, you can only win once.
Carbon Alabel wrote:Considering the long time span you allocated for judging the submissions, I'm assuming you will be studying all the submissions in detail. Will the submissions outside of the top three also be ranked or will they be published at all? Also, may we know which CCP employees will be judging the submissions?
Outside the top 3 they will not be ranked no. I am also not comfortable talking about who the judges will be at this point. Will probably mention it when we publish a dev blog but not right now.
Carbon Alabel wrote:"By entering a submission, you grant CCP the right to use your name for advertising and marketing purposes, without additional compensation, unless otherwise prohibited by law." Does this refer to the name of my character or to my real name? I'd very much like my real name to stay out of this.
That is basically a line from our lawyers. I am hoping to link to all of the Git repos when done and those do require a license and I believe your name has to be in that. I have no intention of ever mentioning anyones real name or character name. If we ever were to say anything it would only be character names but I fear since we are linking to a Git repo a real name could be figured out. Open to suggestions on how to better handle this.
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Posted - 2016.02.22 22:28:31 -
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Carbon Alabel wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:That is basically a line from our lawyers. I am hoping to link to all of the Git repos when done and those do require a license and I believe your name has to be in that. I have no intention of ever mentioning anyones real name or character name. If we ever were to say anything it would only be character names but I fear since we are linking to a Git repo a real name could be figured out. Open to suggestions on how to better handle this. Releasing under a pseudonym? That's what I'm doing. I'm already operating dual accounts on many services to split my real life and EVE related activities, and I've recently done so on GitHub as well. I believe most legal systems don't make a significant distinction between releasing under your real name or under a pseudonym, and I don't see a reason why that pseudonym wouldn't be my character's name. Also, I have another question: Does the 2nd place prize, a "Winners choice of Super Capital SKIN" only include those SKINs which can be purchased in the New Eden Store for Aurum, or does it also include the other two limited edition SKINs, namely the Nyx Umbral SKIN and the Sansha Victory SKIN?
A pseudonym is perfect and I would really recommend people do that if they don't want to link real names to EVE names. I will admit I don't think much about this as I don't care and have linked RL to EVE for a long time. So hearing other people talk about this stuff is always interesting to me.
That would be choice of super capital skin from the NES sorry.
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Posted - 2016.02.22 22:31:05 -
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Ali 2k wrote:NUBIARN wrote:having a play with the crest stuff atm, interesting learning curve from xml to JSON. pretty much got the public stuff under my belt, tbh documentation is a tad scarce but oh well we engineers never are that good at paperwork !  so now playing with the authetication stuff, so my question is what do I put in the callback URL if I`m writing say a desktop app, err think win10 app, therefore no callback url available, this is proably obvious but I don't seem to be able to figure this point out. I've got around this by sending the callback URL to a php page on my own web server where the user grabs the authentication token and pastes it into the desktop app - not the prettiest user flow but it works..
This is the solution I have always been most fond of. Another way to do it is have your application request a unique and short lived identifier from a server you host and pass that as a URL parameter to the SSO when you direct the user to log in. When the user is directed to your web site with the unique identifier you use that to know what app the user is associated with and you send a secure message to the app with the authorization information.
So long as you have a secure way of talking between your app and a server you control it can work really well.
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Posted - 2016.03.01 10:06:33 -
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Ali 2k wrote:I am attempting to access character waypoints with the waypoint endpoint - I receive the folowing response when attempting to POST the request. Quote:{"message": "The route /characters/261499393/waypoints/ was not found", "key": "routeMissing", "exceptionType": "NotFoundError"} Can you confirm this is the correct endpoint for waypoints?
/characters/[characterID:characterIdType]/navigation/waypoints/
You can find a link to it in:
/characters/[characterID:characterIdType]/
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Posted - 2016.03.01 14:11:01 -
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Calavoow2 wrote:Are we allowed to submit under a more restrictive open-source license than MIT? Specifically, a GPL-like license?
MIT is required to submit to the contest.
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Posted - 2016.03.09 09:01:33 -
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Ali 2k wrote:CCP Tellus wrote:Special thanks to everyone who participated!  The raw and uncut submissions are available on Github. Bear in mind that all submitted repositories are presented as-is, prior to any judging or possible disqualifications. Have a great weekend! Firstly thanks for an awesome opportunity to get involved with 3rd party dev! Secondly - I have forgotten to add instructions - although the app is usable.. it might just need a couple of introductory steps. If I update the readme with some instructions will this affect my entry?
We cloned the repos so no. But send Tellus and myself some instructions in an EVE Mail. No promises but will see if we can make sure to read them. :)
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Posted - 2016.03.15 17:50:30 -
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Xiaou Bijoun wrote:Is there someone to contact about the public crest server being down?
Me or CCP Tellus. You can send me an EVE Mail or poke me on the Tweetfleet Slack.
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Posted - 2016.03.31 13:54:55 -
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TheSmokingHertog wrote:Can you post the result here too?
Yup! I was hoping to have a dev blog out at the same time, but I am terrible so it will probably be out tomorrow. :(
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Posted - 2016.04.01 09:47:03 -
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First place: Pathfinder
Second place: Time for EVE
Third place: EVE Fast Fitting Assessment
Seagull's choice: EVE Contacts Manager
Will be contacting the winners later today. :)
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